Post by strine on Nov 14, 2017 18:51:26 GMT
Meant to do this last week but anyway... SPOILERS FOR WATCHMEN
I've been kicking around the idea of doing something on Watchmen, in particular how the ending works on a philosophy level. If you have other ideas or questions to add please do! So at the end of the story, Ozymandias explodes an alien looking creature in New York and kills millions of people. His plan is to have this event lead the US to make peace with Russia and team up to prepare for an alien invasion. It works. (in the movie he sets off multiple bombs around the world but makes it look like it was Dr. Manhattan so everyone teams up against him. Peace is made)
His logic for doing this is that millions dead now are a fair trade for the survival of billions ensured by world peace. In his view, right and wrong is a numbers game, and he's balanced the equation. Everyone except Rorschach agrees with him. Rorschach instead thinks it's wrong to have killed, even if it means something good can come from it. Innocent lives are worth saving, always. He pays for this world view with his life.
So what I would want to talk about in the episode is what that philosophy actually is. You could say Ozy practices a form of utilitarianism, where he is trying to maximize utility for the billions by sacrificing the millions. Meanwhile Rorschach believes every "innocent" human life has value, and is therefore worth protecting. You could make a comparison between Watchmen and the classic "trolley problem" with Ozy seeing nuclear war as the trolley and pulls the lever to sacrifice less people.
I feel like this is the kind of subject people like to dance around without doing a deep dive into the implications of it because...well talking about life and death ethics is difficult. I watched a couple of videos on Watchmen and nobody really digs into what the ending actually means, they just talk about its discussion of power, and "who watches the Watchmen" stuff. Let me know what ya'll think of this angle and what you would want to see from it, if anything. Thanks!
I've been kicking around the idea of doing something on Watchmen, in particular how the ending works on a philosophy level. If you have other ideas or questions to add please do! So at the end of the story, Ozymandias explodes an alien looking creature in New York and kills millions of people. His plan is to have this event lead the US to make peace with Russia and team up to prepare for an alien invasion. It works. (in the movie he sets off multiple bombs around the world but makes it look like it was Dr. Manhattan so everyone teams up against him. Peace is made)
His logic for doing this is that millions dead now are a fair trade for the survival of billions ensured by world peace. In his view, right and wrong is a numbers game, and he's balanced the equation. Everyone except Rorschach agrees with him. Rorschach instead thinks it's wrong to have killed, even if it means something good can come from it. Innocent lives are worth saving, always. He pays for this world view with his life.
So what I would want to talk about in the episode is what that philosophy actually is. You could say Ozy practices a form of utilitarianism, where he is trying to maximize utility for the billions by sacrificing the millions. Meanwhile Rorschach believes every "innocent" human life has value, and is therefore worth protecting. You could make a comparison between Watchmen and the classic "trolley problem" with Ozy seeing nuclear war as the trolley and pulls the lever to sacrifice less people.
I feel like this is the kind of subject people like to dance around without doing a deep dive into the implications of it because...well talking about life and death ethics is difficult. I watched a couple of videos on Watchmen and nobody really digs into what the ending actually means, they just talk about its discussion of power, and "who watches the Watchmen" stuff. Let me know what ya'll think of this angle and what you would want to see from it, if anything. Thanks!