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Post by mightyhegemol on Oct 27, 2017 21:31:28 GMT
Re-created from my late-night thoughts on the Discord:
This was inspired by seeing that, on Discord, you 'Add Friends', like on Facebook, or Battle.net, etc. etc. But, when I tried to add someone yesterday, the first response was 'Who are you?', followed by 'Do you need something in particular?'
And, just a couple weeks ago, I got a friend request on fb from a dig site manager that one of my other facebook (and IRL I guess) had field school under.
These examples got me thinking: why do social media sites want their networks to be 'friends' and what do this do to friendship? It seems to me that it creates an almost impersonal group of friends that you often know nothing or next-to-nothing about, making the term 'friend' not actually refer to any bond of affection.
Some thoughts on where this could go: Macecurb mentioned a study that I need to find showing something much like what I'm thinking.
I'm also currently reading about medieval conceptions of friendship (which is loosely based on Aristotelian conceptions). This could be fruitful, as these seem to have often been formal bonds of obligation, based on reciprocal aid more than actual affection. Possibly it could be argued that we've gone full circle, and social media's 'goal' is to create a broad network of obligation that can be tapped for a variety of purposes.
Romaji mentioned 'friend-zoning'. That could turn into a bit about 'friend' gaining a negative connotation antithetical to modern conceptions of the term.
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ngnius
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Post by ngnius on Oct 30, 2017 13:48:20 GMT
Real friends are still a thing (afaik), but the online or social media definition of "friend" has definitely changed. The amount of friends you have on Facebook is a social status symbol now - it's no longer about the friendships so much as the number.
Of course, I've also made real friends online (I'd like to count some of you guys there) - I spend a good amount of time chatting with them, and sometimes even playing video games with them. All of my friends from social media (mainly Discord) are on my friends list. I also have a few acquaintances on my friends list, so that I can keep in touch with them (or in some cases, contact them quickly when I need them).
On a slightly tangential topic, social media has also led to the rise of introverts - people who don't need real friends have access to social media when they need to get their fix of socializing, and can disappear without too much consequence when they're done.
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Post by 14flash on Nov 17, 2017 5:59:00 GMT
I'd like to argue the opposite perspective. That is, social media has strengthened friendships.
Sharing experiences strengthens friendships; it creates an idea which is shared among multiple people and can be used as a basis for interaction. Before the Internet, this would mean having to either do something together physically, or share some physical document of an event, whether it be a letter, souvenir, etc. With social media sites, it became possible to share idea quickly and easily. This lowered the bar for what experiences were worth sharing (publicly, no less), but this hasn't made experience sharing worse at strengthening friendships. Instead, it allows a friendship to be created and maintained despite physical boundaries.
Social media provides a framework for making friends. When you add someone as a "friend" on a site, it's often not a confirmation that you are already friends, but that you wish to become friends. The site then provides the infrastructure to make that friendship happen. I'd also like to point out that some people here, on Idea Project, have said that treated each other as friends despite knowing each other for a short time. This would not have been possible without Discord and the forums.
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Post by The TNT Tiger on Nov 20, 2017 17:59:29 GMT
Isn't there also an argument for social media, while strengthening the friendships ye want, damaging others? Like, en ye olden days ye'd have ta make friends at work, school, about town- people regularly grew their meaningful relationships from those who surrounded them daily. But in this modern age, people cultivate a lot of their relationships online, and interact less with the people they meet daily in hopes of being friends- their best friends may live counties, countries or continents away, drifted apart in time- and so these people have less close friends in the meatspace, which can be perceived as unhealthy.
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Post by Oriana on Dec 4, 2017 6:20:48 GMT
I think in social media interactions, the word "friend" has become kind of a synonym for "another node in my network".
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