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Post by AlicePow on Oct 18, 2017 20:11:40 GMT
Anybody else love linguistics?? What are some of your favorite linguistic subjects? Any cool language tendencies you've noticed?
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Post by heresanidea on Oct 19, 2017 3:32:22 GMT
I've listened to a few lectures from John Searle on YouTube, does that count? Because I think I love linguistics, just that I don't know it too well yet. I found his breaking down of speech acts into propositional content and force of proposition very interesting. But it's an art to get those right really, I wish there were easier ways to do that. I don't have much thoughts of my own about this.. how about this one- Viewing language as a syntactical structure helps make that language more useful. But viewing _all_ uses of the language as syntactical might not be the correct all the time. E.g. youtu.be/6Ai1k2lAANY"There's more than one way to look at things" seems to be meaning behind the Nixon story and the guy who tells the story can't argue with that either. So it was a successful syntactical reduction in this case. Until the guy sees Nixon while drowning. Now we oughta say, the reduction was a less accurate description of things because at least the Nixon story alluded to Nixon which was a part of the thing being talked about. Now even now we can reduce it syntactically and say- there's more than one way to look at things and btw there's something about Nixon and afterlife. But then I might see Nixon getting out of his car to see me when I'm having a near death experience, and again the newer reduction too becomes less accurate than the original story. So 2+2 might not always mean 4 the same way 2*2 does. And I feel translators and historians feel this problem. |
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Post by mightyhegemol on Oct 23, 2017 20:08:44 GMT
I did my minor for undergrad in Linguistics!
I primarily do historical Germanic, so I don't know very much on the cutting-edge sociolinguistic/psycholinguistic stuff.
But, I did some work into spatial linguistics and place-names, which dabbled into questions of learning language and the overlap between linguistics and cosmology.
heresanidea, I'm not sure I get what you're saying there. The situations are semantically different, not syntactically. In fact, in terms of syntax, almost the same structure, with the same words, results in the story. But, they can't be summarized the same way, so there's a semantic difference.
If I misunderstood you, I'd be happy to keep talking about it, but I'm not sure what the point necessarily is right now.
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Post by heresanidea on Oct 28, 2017 13:44:42 GMT
I did my minor for undergrad in Linguistics! I primarily do historical Germanic, so I don't know very much on the cutting-edge sociolinguistic/psycholinguistic stuff. But, I did some work into spatial linguistics and place-names, which dabbled into questions of learning language and the overlap between linguistics and cosmology. heresanidea, I'm not sure I get what you're saying there. The situations are semantically different, not syntactically. In fact, in terms of syntax, almost the same structure, with the same words, results in the story. But, they can't be summarized the same way, so there's a semantic difference. If I misunderstood you, I'd be happy to keep talking about it, but I'm not sure what the point necessarily is right now. well the point is, semantics comes into picture more often than one would think.. Maybe syntax isn't as widely applicable as it seems to be in the world.. If you want an example, I'd say something like.. the mistaking the a.i. to be human is like mistaking aspects of humanity to be pure syntactical things. I'm not too sure about what I'm saying though, just going by the feel of things. |
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