14flash
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Post by 14flash on Oct 12, 2017 3:15:11 GMT
So, thanks to the recommended list on YouTube, I got to listening to Bob Dylan. As I'm going through these songs I can't help but think that what he's singing/complaining/protesting about are the exact problems which face the newest generation. For example, Subterranean Homesick Blues talks about the unrealistic expectations set for kids entering the work force and "real life."
I can't help but feel this is mimicked by Millennial's complaints that everything their parents expectations for them are unreasonable in the face of the current economy.
Add to this many similar movements and events (Civil Rights Movement -> Black Lives Matter, Cuban Missile Crisis -> Iranian Nuclear Program, Vietnam War -> War on Terror) and it kind of feels like we're not really in a distinct time period. Are we living in the sixties?
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Post by macecurb on Oct 14, 2017 0:56:40 GMT
I would think that the Millenial Episode covered, or at least touched on, this topic pretty well? Not to say that we can't dive back in with a different angle, but it would probably take quite a different angle.
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Post by 14flash on Oct 14, 2017 2:15:56 GMT
Actually, I think the premise I'm getting it at is quite the opposite of the Millenial episode your linked. In it, Mike talks about how Millenial's have an active role in destroying and forgetting the past, which is necessary to achieve their progress. The idea here was that the past isn't gone, but very much alive. Milennial's are a symptom, not a focus, of this repetition. Despite all the "progress" that has been made in various forms in the last half century, *society* remains the same, that is, humans (or at least American culture) hasn't changed.
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Post by Oriana on Dec 21, 2017 10:17:50 GMT
Perhaps this should be extended to other times of great upheaval.
Maybe we Snake People are really living in the 1960s... and the 1930s...and the 1890s... and the 1860s... and the 1820s... and the 1780s, and the 1640s, and the 1520s, and in the 1490s...
What about geography-ing this up a bit? Perhaps that could shine some light on this cycle of social upheaval?
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Post by mightyhegemol on Dec 21, 2017 14:27:14 GMT
Is that a request for some history??? (i may have a problem).
Well if we wanted to be really ambitious, I believe there's probably something related in the collapse of the Abbasid Caliphate in early 12th century Baghdad, and the taifa kingdoms in Spain in the 13th.
But that all comes with a gigantic caveat: We don't have access to what the overwhelming majority of the population was thinking until the late 18th century, at the very earliest. Even then, you're really looking to the 1830s for when literacy rates hit a point that we have a good idea for what ordinary people are struggling with.
We do have accounts of various peasant revolts, and educated people did talk about those (French Revolution, the Peasant's Revolt of 1381), but it's hard to strip away the various biases and see if people were reacting to the same fears as modern millenials are. If I had to hazard a guess, they didn't, because at least as far as I can tell, a lot of the fears of 'joining the workforce' etc. rely on a capitalist society in order to be relevant.
Or in far too many words: I would love to do a historically-minded discussion of millenials, but, depending on the exact angle, there would be some limits to how far back the history could go.
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Post by Oriana on Jan 5, 2018 3:10:03 GMT
What if we're living in a mashup?
What if the 2010s are a MASHUP of the past 3 centuries?
Also: I would love a thing that goes "a disenfranchized population whose upward mobility is destroyed, a trend towards communism, oppressive ruling classes... you know what I'm talking about. The English Civil War" or something. A good set-up + twist.
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Post by Oriana on Jun 7, 2018 6:49:13 GMT
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